Back with a Summer’s Day
Enjoy your red, red wine while you groove along to UB40, Jefferson Starship and Dragon at one of the Bay’s biggest music events of this summer.
Words: Martyn Pepperell
When the good people at UNO asked me to interview the legendary British reggae-pop band UB40, I figured it was a safe bet we’d be talking about music. However, I didn’t expect our conversation to begin with chocolate. “I’ve heard you guys have a rival to Cadbury which is supposed to be better,” says Matt Doyle, the new lead singer of UB40. “Whittaker’s, right? I wouldn’t mind trying some of that.”
Depending on how much chocolate means to you, you may already know that the Cadbury chocolate factory is located in Bournville, four miles south of Birmingham, where UB40 originally formed in 1978. At the time, they emerged alongside a generation of chart-topping local reggae acts that included Musical Youth, Steel Pulse, and Pato Banton. “There was never any question about what sort of music we were going to play,” enthuses guitarist and lyricist Robin Campbell, one of the band’s founding members. “We were only ever going to be a reggae band.”
“We’re a gang of mates,” Robin continues. “We didn’t come together to form a band. We already all knew each other. We lived on the streets together, hung out together, and all went to school together. We talked about forming a band right through our teen years, and then in 1976, we saw Bob Marley play.” He pauses before continuing with a chuckle. “That was the closest thing to a spiritual experience I’ve ever had. It still took us a year and a half before we did anything, but that was the moment that changed everything.”
Three years after Robin and UB40 saw Bob Marley perform for the first time, he played to a huge crowd at Auckland’s Western Springs Stadium and had a similar effect on the first two generations of reggae musicians in New Zealand. Interestingly, while UB40 and their peers in Birmingham were making their first steps towards global success in the wake of seeing Bob perform, some of the foundations for New Zealand’s own reggae scene had already been laid near Wellington city in Porirua – home to the Whittaker's chocolate factory – by a band called Chaos. I guess there’s something about reggae and chocolate that goes hand in hand.
On Wednesday, 4 January 2023, UB40 will perform in Tauranga at Trustpower Baypark stadium alongside Jefferson Starship and Dragon as part of Neptune Entertainment’s A Summer's Day Live six-date tour. It’s been 41 years since the first time UB40 performed in New Zealand. Ever since then, they’ve been semi-regular visitors, along the way entertaining huge audiences here with classic hits like “Food for Thought”, “1 in 10”, “Red Red Wine”, “Kingston Town” and “Can’t Help Falling In Love With You”. “We like to get around the country,
you know,” explains Robin. “It’s a nice place to visit, and the geography is stunning, isn’t it?”
Thinking back to arriving in New Zealand in 1981, Robin remembers the legendary Auckland reggae band Herbs greeting them at the airport with a bag of marijuana. “They said, ‘Our name is Herbs’,” he laughs before deadpanning a follow-up quip. “We said, how did you get that name?” During that trip, Herbs and UB40 found common ground over music, food, and family, in the process creating lifelong bonds. “It’s all about the idea of family, building a brotherhood, and sticking together through thick and thin,” Robin reflects.
Over the decades following that tour, they stayed close to Herbs percussionist Carl Perkins, who formed his own family reggae band House of Shem with his sons Te Omeka and Isaiah, before sadly passing away after a battle with bowel cancer in 2018. Last year, they renewed that connection with the family when Perkins’ sons recorded vocals for three songs on UB40’s twenty-first album, Bigga Baggariddim. “We sent them three backing tracks and said pick one and put a tune on it,” Robin says. “They put tunes on all three of them, and we loved them all. We sent music out to artists from all around the world, and they were the only ones who did that.”
Matt, who joined the group in 2021 after Robin’s brother Duncan Campbell retired due to health issues, first got to know UB40 while touring with them in fellow Birmingham reggae band Kioko. While, as he admits, it was initially quite daunting to join the group, it didn’t take him long to hit his stride with them. “Being in a band is just the best feeling,” he enthuses. “If you can bring that out, and it carries over to the audience, even better.”
For Robin, the feeling is similar. Like Matt, he has an undying love of playing music and performing. From his perspective, playing music and performing offers a high he’s never found anywhere else. “That sounds corny, but it’s true,” he laughs. “Music is emotional communication, and there’s no substitute for the emotional response you get from the audience.”
“The audience makes the show most of the time,” Matt adds.
In 2023, UB40 will be 45 years old. It’s a milestone the band plans to acknowledge with the release of a new album titled UB45. Over the course of a lifetime in music, they’ve scaled the highest heights of commercial success while remaining connected to the Jamaican reggae music that first inspired them. Like the rest of us, however, they’ve found the pandemic years hard-going and are very excited to be heading on the road again and returning to New Zealand.
“It’s been like being underwater for too long,” explains Matt. “You need to come up for air and get that breath. It’s been like that. Getting back out on stage, being able to play music, all these things feel like coming back up for air.” “It’s reminded me why I love doing it all so much,” admits Robin. “What you get from an audience is irreplaceable. As long as I’m physically able to do music, I’ll keep going.”
Q+A with Dragon
WordsTodd Hunter
UNO: What do you enjoy about visiting and playing in Tauranga?
I love playing in Tauranga. Marc and I spent most holidays hanging around Mount Maunganui. Our grandmother had flats in Rita St. We would spend all day at the small Mount and climb the big one!
Any good stories from playing here in the past you’d like to share?
We went into lockdown in a hotel in January 2021, so we could play at the Greenstone festivals. It was a wild experience. They gave us recording equipment and spent two weeks recording stuff. It was like being 20 again.
Dragon started in 1972. How does it feel to be part of something so long-lasting?
It’s totally great. We don’t take it for granted for a minute. It’s amazing that we still have great crowds to play to. Dragon has been a way of life rather than a band that only lasted a few years.
How would you compare playing festivals in the seventies/eighties to now?
The thrill is the same, and everything else is different.
Aside from playing shows, have you guys been working on anything lately?
We are compiling songs for a new album. It is essential to keep writing new songs to keep in touch with the essence of the band, and, less pompously, it’s fun.
What’s summertime about for Dragon?
Whitebait fritters on the west coast on the way to summer festivals. It doesn’t get better than that.
Q+A with Jefferson Starship’s
Cathy Richardson
UNO: What do you think it is about Jefferson Starship that resonates so well?
Some of the songs are so iconic. They encapsulate the times or even moods of the era. When you hear the Jefferson Airplane song “White Rabbit”, you feel like you could be sitting in a smoky hippie den somewhere, seeing blobs on the wall. Equally, the Starship hit “We Built This City” represents the excess of the eighties.
Do you have any memories from the last time you performed in Tauranga with Toto in 2019?
That was just an amazing tour. It was our first time in New Zealand, which was exciting in itself. Of course, it was so cool to share the stage with those legendary bands, and the audience reception really blew us away.
What are you looking forward to about touring New Zealand with UB40 and Dragon?
We’re excited to reconnect with our friends in Dragon, and we can’t wait to hear and get to know the UB40 guys as well. We met their tour manager, who also works for Deep Purple, who we just toured with in Europe. It will be quite a trip to see her on the other side of the world.
What’s summertime about for Jefferson Starship?
Generally, lots and lots of shows! We love playing outside, much like the old days in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco. There’s nothing better than grooving to some great live music with a few thousand of your closest friends on a beautiful afternoon or evening.
To purchase tickets to A Summer’s Day Live, head to trademarklive.co.nz